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Thread: Affordable and comfortable aftermarket seats

When my seats died replacement leather was about $1000 for both fronts. I found a set of Recaros from an Evo X that were around $700 (in LA somewhere, since OP is a SoCal guy). The Evo brackets are riveted onto the sliders, but once you drill those out they mount like any other Recaro seat. So adjustable Recaros can be had for less than $1000 easily. They're usually black alcantara. The rarer leather seats are significantly more expensive and sought after by Evo guys looking to upgrade. But the stock seats get tossed frequently when guys build track cars.

I got tired of waiting for the brackets I ordered to get built, so I built my own and cancelled the order, but they weren't too much.

They recline, though it's a crank for adjustability rather than a lever or something to lay down quickly. Not sure if that would be a deal killer.

Having said that, I think our sport seats are THE most comfortable I've ever used. I have family in Idaho and I live in Texas, and I make that drive at least twice a year (straight shot, 23 hours). I've had a variety of Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, Chevy, and Cadillac over the years, and at the end of 23 hours of driving I always felt best in our sport seats.

My Recaros are far more supportive than any factory E36 seat, but they are slightly less comfortable.

Maybe a seat foam refresh would be your best option?

I haven't spent a lot of long-distance time in an E46, but as others have suggested that might be a good option. Those seats require relatively little modification to fit, and mostly bolt right up. I think you have to relocate one of the mounting holes slightly, but fairly straight forward.


-Josh
1998 E36 M3/4/6 with most of the easy stuff and most of the hard stuff. 255k miles. 1994 E32 740il with nothing but some E38 staggered MPars - gotta love BMW's prettiest wheel ever! 67k miles.
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BMW Seats & Seat Accessories for BMW 3 Series E46 (1999-2005)

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Whether you're building a track-only speed machine, show car, or ultra-serious street ride the seats can make an awesome upgrade. Aside from the obvious safety considerations with a seat, there are few upgrades that can have more of an impact in your driving experience. Sport or Race seats envelope and grip the driver's body, holding him/her in place even under extreme driving situations. When strapped into a seat with the appropriate harnesses you can become an integrated part of the car. Without the sliding around of stock seats you can have greater confidance and focus on the act of driving. Turner Motorsport is an authorized Recaro dealer and we use them in all of our racecars and high-level tuner project cars. We offer the full range of Recaro tuner and racing seats with mounts and adapters and other accessories.

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Seat Floor Adapters - E36, E46, E85 - Macht Schnell

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In order to mount aftermarket seats in your car, you need a floor mount adapter. These high-quality aluminum adapters are made by Macht Schnell. These bolt to your existing seat mounting studs in the floor and offer the lowest profile of any floor mount (22mm height). This helps to keep your seat at the lowest position possible. Your seat adapters or sliders bolt to this adapter plate. These floor mounts are a matrix style with rows of threaded holes that allow you to find an ideal seat location. There are other options - including homemade - but these seat brackets for your BMW are the highest quality to match your expensive seats.

Sold per seat. Can be used on left or right sides of vehicle.

These adapters were originally designed for the E46 chassis. They can fit the E36 by modifying the mounting holes to match the bolt and stud locations on the E36 floor.

This item fits the following BMWs:
1995-1999  E36 BMW  318i 318is 318ti 318i 323is 323i 325i 325is 325i 328i 328is 328i M3 (except convertibles) ( see note above )
1999-2005  E46 BMW  323i 323ci 325i 325ci 325xi 328i 328ci 330i 330ci 330xi M3 (except convertibles)
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Recaro Universal Seat Sliders

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If you want fore-aft adjustment on your Recaro seat you will need a set of sliders. These are the genuine Recaro sliders that are some of the finest quality that we have seen. The sliders fit between the vehicle adapter and the seat brackets. There are two types depending on how your floor adapters work - without tabs and with tabs.

Recaro Seat Slider types -
Without Tabs - offers the lowest possible seating position - the total height of the sliders is 22mm (7/8"); the sliders are sandwiched between the floor mount and seat; the bolts install to the floor mount perpendicular to the ground; works with flat Macht Schnell or VAC style floor mounts only.
With Tabs - the sliders have tabs on each end with three height positions; the positions allow height and rake adjustments but means it's taller than the version without tabs - total height with the tabs is 58mm (2.25"); the tabs mean the mounting bolts install parallel to the ground; some floor mounts require the tab style (Wedge Engineering for example).

The Recaro sliders are all steel - pulling the handle moves teeth on two tracks which is more secure and stable than a single track. This set of sliders has the bar on the inside of the track (the most common for BMW fitments).

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Recaro Specialist M Seat - All BMW

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Upgrading your seat(s) will completely transform your interior feel. The Specialist S includes integrated lumbar support, adjustable headrest, and a mildly bolstered back and seat with thigh extension. A classic design and shape that works well in almost any chassis. Manual adjustment and seat back release. Show More Show Less

Seat Floor Adapters - E36, E46, E85 - Macht Schnell

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In order to mount aftermarket seats in your car, you need a floor mount adapter. These high-quality aluminum adapters are made by Macht Schnell. These bolt to your existing seat mounting studs in the floor and offer the lowest profile of any floor mount (22mm height). This helps to keep your seat at the lowest position possible. Your seat adapters or sliders bolt to this adapter plate. These floor mounts are a matrix style with rows of threaded holes that allow you to find an ideal seat location. There are other options - including homemade - but these seat brackets for your BMW are the highest quality to match your expensive seats.

Sold per seat. Can be used on left or right sides of vehicle.

These adapters were originally designed for the E46 chassis. They can fit the E36 by modifying the mounting holes to match the bolt and stud locations on the E36 floor.

This item fits the following BMWs:
1995-1999 E36 BMW 318i 318is 318ti 318i 323is 323i 325i 325is 325i 328i 328is 328i M3 (except convertibles) ( see note above )
1999-2005 E46 BMW 323i 323ci 325i 325ci 325xi 328i 328ci 330i 330ci 330xi M3 (except convertibles)
2003-2008 E85 E86 BMW Z4 2.5i Z4 3.0i Z4 3.0si Z4 M Roadster M Coupe Show More Show Less

PSDesigns 5-6 Point Anti-Submarine Bracket - Raw Stainless ...

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Provides a secure anchor location for your 5 or 6 point harness submarine belts without the need to cut the chassis to install eye bolts. For use with Lightweight style Floor Mounts from VAC, Macht Schnell, PSDesigns Made from extremely strong and durable laser cut 4mm thick 304 Stainless Steel. Features: Compatible with all 5-point and 6-point harnesses Includes all required hardware (2 High tensile Eyebolts, 2 High tensile 7/16 UNF nuts, and 2 High tensile M8 flanged button head allen bolts) Bolt-in installation (bracket bolts under the floor mounts for extra safety) One Bracket required per seat/Harness. PSDesigns is an enthusiast based company that specializes in niche performance upgrades. From intake conversions to handling upgrades, they have innovated and tested in real world environments to bring you high performance components. Show More Show Less

PSDesigns 5-6 Point Anti-Submarine Bracket - Black

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Provides a secure anchor location for your 5 or 6 point harness submarine belts without the need to cut the chassis to install eye bolts. For use with Lightweight style Floor Mounts from VAC, Macht Schnell, PSDesigns Made from extremely strong and durable laser cut 4mm thick 304 Stainless Steel. Features: Compatible with all 5-point and 6-point harnesses Includes all required hardware (2 High tensile Eyebolts, 2 High tensile 7/16 UNF nuts, and 2 High tensile M8 flanged button head allen bolts) Bolt-in installation (bracket bolts under the floor mounts for extra safety) One Bracket required per seat/Harness. PSDesigns is an enthusiast based company that specializes in niche performance upgrades. From intake conversions to handling upgrades, they have innovated and tested in real world environments to bring you high performance components. Show More Show Less

Turner Motorsport Roll Bar Clamps - Pair

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These little guys are one of our favorite final touches on a race car build. After years of requests, we now are able to supply these for more than just our race team's use. These aluminum collars bolt on your roll cage's harness bar (or any bar for that matter) and help keep your seat belt harnesses from sliding on the bar. You can use just one pair to accomplish this, or 2 pairs (4 collars total) for the best looking and functioning install. The beauty of these collars (besides being lightweight and looking clean) is that they can be adjusted from side to side, which is convenient if you change you seat or belt configuration. They can also be used for other applications as well, such as taming that helmet net strap. If you're looking for a clean, professional looking solution, these are a superb final touch. As used on our own Championship winning TMS E46 and E90 race cars.

We offer these guide collars in two sizes: for 1.5" OD roll bar tubing or for 1.75" OD roll bar tubing (choose your size below). Check your cage tubing diameter especially if your car was built in Europe as they used metric tubing sizes. If you need a metric size, contact us. Also measure with paint applied, not bare tubing. These are sold by the pair, so be sure to modifying your quantity below (or in the cart) if you need them for both seats.
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Recaro Speed V Seat - All BMW

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The simplest way to completely transform the interior feel of your BMW or Mini. Features manual adjustment, integrated lumbar and headrest.
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HARD Motorsport Rear "Seat Delete" Bulkhead filler panel is perfect for sealing your cabin from the trunk when gutting your vehicles of heavy rear seats. Fitting most applications, this panel is the closest option to a drop in part you can find. For vehicles with safety cages, only a small bit of modification is necessary for perfect fitment.

Product Features:

  • .040 Laser Cut Aluminum - Light weight
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  • Bead rolled for strength
  • Direct fitment for BMW 2 door Coupe.

 

Fits the following vehicles:

E46 BMW All coupe sub-models including the M3

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Sparco R100 Seat - All BMW

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The simplest way to completely transform the interior feel of your BMW. With manual adjustment and an ergonomically correct backrest.

Recaro Cross Sportster CS Sport Seat (Heated)

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The Cross Sportster CS seat is everything you wanted in a high quality street tuner seat. This seat doesn't just look cool - it's also a functional ergonomic improvement. The Cross Sportster is similar to the legendary Sportster CS but with smaller hip bolsters to make ingress/egress easier. All of the other features of the Sportster CS carry over - aggressive side bolsters, wide shoulder supports and integrated headrest to properly support and protect your body during spirited driving. This seat also features a heated element in the base (with its own switch) on vinyl and leather materials. Recaro has also focused on comfort by contouring the backrest to the natural shape of the human spine. The padding is thick and dense and the seat cushion has a built-in shock absorbing design. This seat will accept a standard 3-point seatbelt as well as a 4-point harness. The backrest folds forward for easy access to rear seats in a coupe body.

Feedback from a Sportster CS user: "The phenomenological aspect that struck me the most, however, is just how much more a part of the car you feel when you are harnessed into these seats! I got a thrill from driving that I haven't had since I was in high school! It was that dramatic a change. The stock seats now seem like puffy cushions that float in disconnected fashion from the car and its movements. With the Recaros, you are one with the Beast. If I had known how dramatic a difference they would make, they would have been the first mod I made, without a doubt."

Seat Specs:
shell materialsteel base with composite backrest
fabric materialstandard: cloth or vinyl; optional: vinyl, leather
fabric colorsstandard: black; optional: red, silver
logo colorgrey, silver, red, black
harness guidesYes, for 3 or 4 point
seat adjustmentsbackrest angle, fore-aft (with optional sliders)
seat mountbottom mount, adapter bracket included
slidersnot included
chassis mountsnot included
Fitment notes:
  • This is a bottom-mount seat with a Recaro seat adapter included. A vehicle-specific floor adapter plate is still required. This seat will attach to either a set of sliders or be fixed in place directly to the floor plate (non adjustable).
  • This seat is designed mainly for street use. However, depending on the car model, various modifications and fabrication may be required to retain any of the original seat features. This is more of an issue on newer cars with integraged occupancy sensors, power and heat, seat memory settings, air bags, etc. Professional installation, or detailed knowledge, on newer cars is strongly recommended. We also recommend custom installation to gain the ideal seating position for your tastes.
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    This is installed in my e46, but it really applies to all BMWs equally, so thought I'd post it here, as well.

    I am just going to start with pictures, because I know everyone is going to skip to that either way. Please read on, after, as there are a ton of very specific reason why I think this seat is THE best seat on the market for cars that see track and street use-- and quite different that other offerings currently on the market.





































    Pretty spectacular, in my opinion!

    Seats are a project I have been pondering doing on my car for over a decade. In that time, I’ve run a bunch of different seats in different cars (specifically Sparco Evo IIs, Recaro SPG XLs, and Recaro Pole Positions) and found them all to be unacceptable in a street driven car for a variety of reasons.

    I view my car as a tracked street car. Every modification I do to it is done with that priority set in mind. That means I am not willing to do anything that makes the car less safe on the street (which lots of track focused seats do), less practical, or too much of a pain to hop in to go grab milk. In the context of seats, I want to improve the car on track as much as possible, without making it worse on the street.

    I also do not want to do anything that degrades the quality of the car. One of my favorite things about the M3 is that it is a high quality, well made object, which uses premium materials.

    Safety
    My primary concern was not making the car less safe on the street. There are two areas where traditional aftermarket seats negatively impact street safety.
    1. The factory 3 point receiver has nowhere to go. This is well exemplified in this picture of the Recaro SPG XL mounted in my M3 wagon (since removed):





    Using the factory 3 point receiver, you have to choose between pulling the belt over the top of the side of the seat (which creates a gap between you and the belt—unsafe) or feeding it through the hole—which causes it to jab into your side continuously and be orientated off the load path of the belt. A common solution to this is to run a back seat receiver in the front, but doing so comes at the expense of the factory belt pretensioner functionality, as well as the seat belt buckle sensor. Factory fixed back seats address this by coming either with low sides, like BMW did in the CSL/CRT, or with cutouts specifically designed for the seat belt receiver, like Porsche does with their factory buckets or BMW does in their GTS cars.


    CSL seats


    CRT seats


    Porsche’s every modern car CF bucket


    M4 GTS factory seats


    If you look at the Nogaros, you will see Cobra went the same route as BMW did with the CSL—the sides are low enough in the seat belt receiver area to allow the belt to pass over the seat, unobstructed. I don’t know of any other fixed back seats on the market that play nicely with the factory 3 point receiver.

    2. Many aftermarket fixed back seats have little to no head padding. This was true of the Recaro in my wagon above, and the Evo II I ran in my track car. For race/track use, where you are wearing a helmet, this is fine. For street use, if you get into a crash where you hit your head on the head rest (which is pretty much any front or rear end crash), it is a serious safety issue. Again, if you look at the pictures above, you’ll see that factory fixed back bucket seats always have head padding. On aftermarket seats, this is pretty unusual!

    3. The Cobra Nogaro is the ONLY fixed back seat on the market that is approved (by Schroth) to be used with a Quickfit harness. This is a huge improvement in on track safety over the factory 3 point in all crashes, and allows for the use of a Hans device (enabling further safety).

    4. For reasons beyond my comprehension, many fixed back bucket seats place the harness pass through holes too low to safely use, for an average sized person. It's like they're designed as a styling feature rather than an actual safety feature. The Nogaro does not suffer that-- no spine compression from too low harness holes here!

    Comfort

    1. The Nogaro has considerably more padding than any other non factory bucket seat that I have experienced (I’m starting to sense a trend here). This makes it more comfortable to sit in for an extended period of time. That said I had Cobra make me an extra thin bum cushion (that was there terminology for it on the invoice) specifically for track use—allowing me to sit lower, and have the side bolstering be higher relative to my body.
    2. The lower sides (which, again, I have only seen on factory fixed back seats besides these) mean ingress and egress are considerably easier. You do not need to have a strategy for getting into and out of the car—you just sit in it, and get out when you are done. When I had the SPG XL in the M3 wagon, my wife refused to drive the car because of the entry exit procedure. She prefers the Nogaro to the stock seats
    3. Adjustable lumbar-- In a fixed back bucket seat, installed by Cobra, at the factory. Different people need different amounts of lumbar support, and lumbar support is hugely important to how comfortable and supportive a seat is.

    Customization

    1. Starting with the obvious, mine were done in Imola leather with Imola thread. This was done by Cobra, at the Cobra factory, on their standard production line—meaning it is 100% factory quality/fitment. Cobra has a number of leather options, and is adding more, but, based on samples they sent me at the time, none were the 100% match to Imola I was looking for. I ended up getting samples from ~15 different leather suppliers before I found one I was happy with (thanks to a recommendation from Braymond141): Relicate. https://relicate.com/. My experience with other seats makers has always been that they are not willing to work with you at all—any customization has to be done after the sale, by a 3rd party shop—more expensive and likely not as good as factory.
    2. Thread spacing. I actually didn’t even think of this on my own—it was Cobra’s idea. They had me take a picture of a tape measure held up against the stock stitching, and then matched it when sewing the seats—meaning the stitching on my seats has the same spacing as the stitching on the door cards/stock seats. A small detail, but also completely awesome, in my opinion!
    3. Factory BMW e46 seat heater pads are installed in my seats (also installed by Cobra)! This means they are plug and play with the factory seat wiring harness, and work with the factory seat heater controls in the center stack. Great for brisk spring/fall track days, first thing in the morning, with mandatory windows down!
    4. Extra, thin bum cushion. I had Cobra make me an extra bum cushion (their terminology) which is just a piece of neoprene—wrapped in Imola red leather, with BMW seat heater pads. This allows me to sit lower and have more side support while on track, similar to a more track focused bucket seat.
    5. Seat occupancy sensor. This is something I didn’t choose to do, as the BMW occupancy sensor tends to be unreliable, but something they were willing to do (so I thought I should mention if others wanted it)—they were more than happy to install this, at the factory, as well. I opted to not get it, and coded the errors. The downside to my approach is that the passenger airbags will go off in a crash, whether there’s a passenger in the seat or not—making a crash more expensive.
    6. Adjustable lumbar support. As mentioned above (in the comfort section), I have adjustable lumbar support in my seats. This can be adjusted on the fly by a small hand pump/release valve that I have tucked inside the leather on the tunnel side.
    7. The shells are offered in GRP (22 lbs seats) or CF (12 lbs per seat). I opted for GRP because of the price difference… which I might regret one day (I could have had an additional 20 lbs of weight saving with no detriment to functionality/comfort).

    Mounting

    1. Brey Krause has an upcoming line of Nogaro specific mounts for the e46 (as well as 911s, Caymans, e9Xs, F8Xs/F3Xs, and some other cars), which attach to the factory BMW sliders. Having car specific, seat specific mounts gets you as close to a factory optimized seat setup as you’re going to get. My car was the development car for the e46 mounts, so the version pictured may not be the final production part—but it should be close. I choose to run a power slider on the driver side, for precise adjustment and because it lets you get the seat lower, and a manual slider on the passenger side, for faster back seat access.
    2. The Brey Krause side mounts use the factory sliders. Unlike aftermarket sliders, the factory sliders are designed to have seat belts mounted above them—which means the seat belts stay properly located to your body, regardless of seat position (including sub straps, using the Brey Krause sub strap mounts for stock sliders—R-9228 and R-9229). For my car, I went with the factory e46 sedan/wagon sliders, as they add an outboard lap belt mount point (unlike the coupe’s sliders). While this wasn’t necessary, as the Brey Krause lap belt kit (R-9225) can add a lap belt mount point to the coupe sliders, I like factory parts.
    3. Using the factory sliders also means the factory 3 point belt receiver on the slider is retained. This means the pretensioner functionality is retained, as well as the “seat belt not buckled” sensor—all of which also goes through the factory seat plug.
    4. The factory BMW sliders have ~double the travel of aftermarket sliders. This makes the back seat still useable, both for people or for loading track tires into the back seat.
    5. Using the factory slider means no Swiss cheese adapter plate is required—the slider just bolts to the floor of the car, just like stock.
    6. Slider slots: The Cobra Nogaro has another unique feature that I have not seen on any other seats—slots in the seat base, that would otherwise be wasted space, to clear the slider. This means the seat can be mounted lower in the car before it runs into interference. As someone who is 6’4, with most of my height in my Torso and often wearing a helmet in the car, this is a huge win for me—this seat will allow me to be in the car without a reclined seat for the first time, ever! I can actually fit an entire fist over my head while sitting in the car, now.




    E46 Manual slider with seat installed, with Brey Krause R-9227 manual slider release handle.


    E46 Power slider without seat, with sub strap mount showing. Slider is controlled by an e30 window switch—I grabbed a factory e30 window switch wiring harness from an e30 that was getting parted out for an OE plug install. All wiring goes through the factory seat plug, so installing/removing the seat is as easy as with the stock seat—one plug for everything.

    Weight savings
    Excluding the fire extinguisher, but including the mounts and sliders, I saved 59 lbs—almost exactly the weight of a stock power/leather seat! I did get the GRP buckets—had I ponied up for the carbon buckets, it would have been another ~20 lbs of weight savings. Perhaps equally importantly, the setup lowers the COG. Most of the weight of the seat setup is in the base of the seat (side mounts, sliders, seat base). Additionally, my seating position is a couple inches lower than stock—not an insignificant amount of weight to get mounted lower!

    Driving Impressions
    Driving in the Nogaro is very similar to other fixed back seats, if you have experienced that. Having your seat bolted directly to the car, instead of sitting on box spring, means you’re much more in touch with what the car is doing at all times. Having a competent suspension becomes more important, but in exchange you are provided with more information about the cars behavior than you could even get from a stock style seat. The seat also holds you in place far better than stock, which means you spend far less time bracing yourself in place and far more time focusing on driving the car. Having a bucket seat doesn’t make the car itself notably faster, but it does enable you to be a faster driver. On track, no contest compared to a stock seat—at no point am I fighting to hold myself in place, as you do with stock seats. They aren’t as supportive as a dedicated race seat, but they almost are—without the huge street tradeoffs associated with a race seat.


    Conclusion
    This post went on longer than I planned, but seats are a project I have been pondering for years. I wanted to fully flush out how I ended up, where I ended up.

    The Cobra Nogaro occupies a unique place in the market, with several benefits over competing seats that are not immediately obvious. For a car that still sees street use, I believe they are the only non OE fixed back bucket seat that comes without significant compromises. The Nogaros gets you 90% of the benefit of a traditional race seat with almost none of the tradeoffs normally associated with a fixed back bucket. Additionally, they’re 100% made in Great Britain—no Chinese parts here! It is the only aftermarket seat that is made with the same priorities that the car manufacturers use when they do fixed back buckets for street driven, track designed cars.

    During this process, being the PITA customer that I am (take me to the source!), I’ve fostered a good relationship with the owner of Cobra and the guys at HMS (the US importer for Cobra). If people are interested, I’d be happy to try to organize a group buy on these. Cobra’s racing buckets seem to be quite popular in the club racing crowd, but the Nogaro seems to be almost unheard of in the USA. Given the Nogaros unique feature set, I think this should change. A group buy could be an excellent way to kick them into gear!


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    Sparco PRO 2000 QRT Competition Racing Seat

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    wertyu78

    05-23-2014, 09:36 AM

    It's about that time for me to ditch the stock sport seats in lieu of something that will hold me in place better. I've toyed around with the idea of utilizing harness with the stock seats, but ultimately decided I'd like to run aftermarket seats + harnesses so that when I do add my roll bar, I'll be able to run SCCA hill climbs and such.

    What are you running?
    What did you pay?
    Are they comfortable?


    I have been eyeing the OMP stuff....


    http://s22.postimg.org/694tjqiu9/ralleye_black_omp.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

    http://s22.postimg.org/wvha8pn1d/style_omp.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


    Hermes

    05-23-2014, 09:44 AM

    Don't buy fixed back unless you plan on fully caging your car


    wertyu78

    05-23-2014, 09:50 AM

    Don't buy fixed back unless you plan on fully caging your car

    I'm fine with a fixed back. The ZHP isn't driven much anymore. Plus, I've driven fixed back seats for hours upon hours and it wasn't that bad.


    mbeckel

    05-23-2014, 09:52 AM

    I like the seat choice. Looks like it hugs you in place

    Sent from in the bushes


    Hermes

    05-23-2014, 10:21 AM

    I'm fine with a fixed back. The ZHP isn't driven much anymore. Plus, I've driven fixed back seats for hours upon hours and it wasn't that bad.

    Comfort is not the issue, it's a safety reason. In case of a rollover you don't want a fixed back seat unless you have a full cage or else your spine will be compressed


    Smilez

    05-23-2014, 10:26 AM

    I been debating this forever if i should buy some. some NRG bucket seat or recliner seats

    https://www.getnrg.com/files/node_images/RSC-400SL%20Pose.jpg
    https://www.getnrg.com/files/node_images/RSC-400SL%20back.jpg


    derbo

    05-23-2014, 10:49 AM

    Comfort is not the issue, it's a safety reason. In case of a rollover you don't want a fixed back seat unless you have a full cage or else your spine will be compressed

    I think if you use a stock 3pt seatbelt with a fixed back, you should be fine. It allows you to bend over in an event of a rollover.


    derbo

    05-23-2014, 10:52 AM

    oops forgot to actually reply.

    https://img.skitch.com/20120226-m9mq5uxcpb37nmjsi7yngqyirj.png


    Recaro SPG
    Recaro Brackets
    Recaro Slider
    Machschnell Mounts
    VAC sedan seatbelt mount brackets



    I use a stock seatbelt as I do not have a cage.


    My old setup was Schroth BMW specific Quick Fit Pro harness with the stock seats. They did their job well and they held me using the stock seatbelt mounts.


    http://www.schrothracing.com/tuning/quick-fit-pro/qfp-bmw

    http://www.schrothracing.com/pimg/quickFitProInstalled_cf01bdfe.jpg


    I been debating this forever if i should buy some. some NRG bucket seat or recliner seats

    https://www.getnrg.com/files/node_images/RSC-400SL%20Pose.jpg
    https://www.getnrg.com/files/node_images/RSC-400SL%20back.jpg

    These seats are just complete 100% knockoff from the Bride Japan seats that I owned. I personally would not trust any cheap aftermarket seat that is a copy.

    If I do ditch the factory seats, Recaro SPG would be my choice.


    cakM3

    05-23-2014, 11:20 AM

    For me it's Recaro Sportster CS seats....no other seats look perfect to me other than these in our BMWs :) I helped my friend Brian install these in his ///M last year. They are so awesome :drool

    http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/IMG_8972_zpse21e773e.jpg

    http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/93BCAAE7-7FB8-443E-B57B-320E4C474ED1_zps9d72367b.png

    http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/IMG_8974_zps828d052e.jpg

    http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/macdctr/Library2/IMG_9062_zpsc2f5e17a.jpg

    I gotta get off my butt and get a set for my ///M sometime....:facepalm


    Only issue with those is that they are not FIA approved.

    But they do look nice for a street seat.


    Hermes

    05-23-2014, 11:30 AM

    If I was to go fixed back there is only one choice for me

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/scheel11272575584.jpg


    E_Rak

    05-23-2014, 11:31 AM

    Derbo's Recaro setup for sure. :drool


    cakM3

    05-23-2014, 12:26 PM

    Only issue with those is that they are not FIA approved.

    But they do look nice for a street seat.

    Vas, so that means you can't track your car if you have these seats installed?

    Curious...because I know of a guy who has these in his 330CiC and he tracks that car with these seats....

    I find this interesting...


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    Hermes

    05-23-2014, 12:36 PM

    Not necessarily, it depends on who you are running with.


    Vas, so that means you can't track your car if you have these seats installed?

    Curious...because I know of a guy who has these in his 330CiC and he tracks that car with these seats....

    I find this interesting...


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    Not exactly true.

    But many race-sanctioning bodies require that aftermarket seats are FIA approved. Reason being is that FIA seats are tested to a higher standard and get an approval from FIA that states that the seats are safe enough to be use for that style of motorsports.

    That does not mean that other seats are not safe but just that they have not went through FIA testing to get the approval.


    webster

    05-23-2014, 12:52 PM

    Damn Charlie...those seats in your buddy's M3 are sick! :drool


    QC_ZHP

    05-23-2014, 01:16 PM

    +1. I don't want to even know the price tag on them, but they're perfect.


    derbo

    05-23-2014, 03:16 PM

    Vas, so that means you can't track your car if you have these seats installed?

    Curious...because I know of a guy who has these in his 330CiC and he tracks that car with these seats....

    I find this interesting...


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    Most HPDE hosts here do not check if your seat is FIA approved or even if the date on the seat or seatbelts is past it's expiration. However, during sanctioned racing events, there are rules where the seat has to be FIA approved and the dates cannot be expired. For HPDE I would keep stock belts and a bucket seat as I'm not competitively racing.


    Sliders/brackets/Mounts usually will cost around 500-600 per corner. The seat itself varies depending on type of seat. SPGs go for $800 new. Sportster CS $1300+ depending on trim. You are looking at rough estimate of $1300 brand new. This doesn't include a new seat occupancy mat and sensor module which added to another $200.

    Good luck on your search!



    Oh, as far as comfort goes, I can sit in the SPG the whole commute to Buttonwillow fine. (5hr drive). I don't mind it daily driving, however I hate getting out. I have to raise my steering wheel up and roll out. I cannot get out in my garage if I am too close to the left. The door needs to be close to fully wide open to get out due to the size of the side bolsters.


    330i ZHP

    05-23-2014, 07:18 PM

    http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd62/smoulton0204/wagon/STU_3982.jpg


    derbo

    05-24-2014, 09:27 AM

    Those Sportsters :drool


    Sent from my iPad


    I was amazed at how comfortable the sportsters were. They are a great bridge between awesome road feel/driving experience in a street car that makes it to autox or track.


    cakM3

    05-24-2014, 07:01 PM

    Damn Charlie...those seats in your buddy's M3 are sick! :drool

    Yeah...my friend Brian doesn't mess around when it comes to his ///M. He even recently did an SMG to 6MT conversion and did it right.

    After helping Brian install his Recaros I'm looking to do the same thing but in black with carbon backshells. But right now getting the CSL roof panel is higher on my list :)


    ItsRichieRich

    05-05-2021, 10:00 AM

    Bumping an old thread. Anyone got pictures of their seat setup?


    Ooooooo I didn't know this was a thing

    Sparco Pro 2000 on Brey Krause power slider:

    https://i.imgur.com/BWmayTxl.png

    https://i.imgur.com/W0gV0Npl.png

    Initial reactions: mixed, but I knew what I signed up for. Ingress/egress is a bit of a PITA, but once you’re in there, you’re snug – taking any sort of curve at speed is intoxicating now because it’s just you needing to man the wheel, no need to use it to hang on tight. And you can feel so much more of the car, the sensitivity of my ass-sensor has been dialed up to 11. Seating position is much lower, which felt weird initially, and isn’t as practical when you’re parking or getting near curbs. I also wished the steering wheel went lower to match, but the gearstick is now higher up relative to me, and comes to the hand easier.

    After another 1.5 hours of driving on the highway l I was fully settled in and loving it – I could definitely do a much longer stint in the seat with no problem, and the higher steering wasn’t as much of a bother.


    ItsRichieRich

    06-02-2021, 08:25 AM

    For those that gone with aftermarket seats, how did you guys address the airbag light?

    Going to be getting some seats ordered soon and would like to address this when it comes time to installing.


    For those that gone with aftermarket seats, how did you guys address the airbag light?

    Going to be getting some seats ordered soon and would like to address this when it comes time to installing.

    I've only swapped the driver's seat, so there isn't an airbag occupancy sensor, just the pre-tensioner. If you re-use the pre-tensioner with an aftermarket seat, you don't have to code it out. But it's pretty simple, I just used PA-Soft and unchecked a couple boxes in one of the modules, only took like 10 mins - I think there was a box for the seat belt being plugged in, and a box for the pre-tensioner itself.

    You can also use NCSExpert (https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/special-interests/coding-tuning/27812-coding-out-the-seat-belt-pretensioners-and-occupancy-sensor) but I use PASoft as it's a lot more user-friendly.

    Can't really comment on the airbag occupancy sensor for the passenger's side but I can't imagine it's much more difficult

    EDIT: I found the picture I referenced from E46F (https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/belt-pre-tensioners-issue-pasoft.1272117/#lg=thread-1272117&slide=0) and copied it below (so sorry for poor quality). But I believe I unchecked what is highlighted, and (don't quote me on this) but the red circled might be the airbag occupancy

    https://i.imgur.com/rKEn7WJ.png


    ItsRichieRich

    06-10-2021, 08:38 AM

    I've only swapped the driver's seat, so there isn't an airbag occupancy sensor, just the pre-tensioner. If you re-use the pre-tensioner with an aftermarket seat, you don't have to code it out. But it's pretty simple, I just used PA-Soft and unchecked a couple boxes in one of the modules, only took like 10 mins - I think there was a box for the seat belt being plugged in, and a box for the pre-tensioner itself.

    You can also use NCSExpert (https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/special-interests/coding-tuning/27812-coding-out-the-seat-belt-pretensioners-and-occupancy-sensor) but I use PASoft as it's a lot more user-friendly.

    Can't really comment on the airbag occupancy sensor for the passenger's side but I can't imagine it's much more difficult

    EDIT: I found the picture I referenced from E46F (https://www.e46fanatics.com/threads/belt-pre-tensioners-issue-pasoft.1272117/#lg=thread-1272117&slide=0) and copied it below (so sorry for poor quality). But I believe I unchecked what is highlighted, and (don't quote me on this) but the red circled might be the airbag occupancy

    https://i.imgur.com/rKEn7WJ.png

    Noted, I greatly appreciate the response.

    How do you like the Brey Krause power seat sliders? I was planning to go the traditional manual route but these power sliders are the same cost.


    Noted, I greatly appreciate the response.

    How do you like the Brey Krause power seat sliders? I was planning to go the traditional manual route but these power sliders are the same cost.

    BK in my opinion is the best, most optimized seat mount you can get - you don't have to deal with a platform specific adapter plate -> generic sliders & side-mounts. I don't have first-hand experience with aftermarket sliders but from what I've read online, have a ton of play and aren't very stiff. Since the BK mounts reuse factory manual or power sliders, it'll be just like your stock seats and the mechanism will have pretty much no play


    ItsRichieRich

    06-10-2021, 09:58 AM

    BK in my opinion is the best, most optimized seat mount you can get - you don't have to deal with a platform specific adapter plate -> generic sliders & side-mounts. I don't have first-hand experience with aftermarket sliders but from what I've read online, have a ton of play and aren't very stiff. Since the BK mounts reuse factory manual or power sliders, it'll be just like your stock seats and the mechanism will have pretty much no play

    So obviously it will adjust horizontally but does it go vertically as well?


    So obviously it will adjust horizontally but does it go vertically as well?

    Correct - power/manual adjustment is forwards/back. Vertical adjustment & tilt is through the screws for side-mount, so it's not actively adjustable while driving, but you set that during installation


    Hermes

    06-13-2021, 07:27 AM

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210613/1b1ffc26d4f48a6f1b5f2e28eed50fb4.jpg

    I didn’t like the seat on my Snap On stool


    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210613/1b1ffc26d4f48a6f1b5f2e28eed50fb4.jpg

    I didn’t like the seat on my Snap On stoolHa, that's awesome!

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    ItsRichieRich

    07-26-2021, 09:49 AM

    No problem at all - let's take this to the aftermarket seat thread. Currently at the track but I will respond there later tonight

    Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

    Discussion moved :)


    Discussion moved


    Alright - so to answer your question from the other thread, you can buy the harness off Ebay. The part number you posted has the main power connector for the seat, actually one of the Ebay listings has it shown here:


    https://i.imgur.com/La58QL5l.png


    However that harness does not appear to have the required X1469 (motor) connector:


    https://i.imgur.com/B2NCRwll.png


    Pic of my harness with the motor connector (4-flat circular pins on the left):


    https://i.imgur.com/dQZxVCbl.png


    Had a quick look on realOEM and couldn't find anything - but from TIS it seems the X1469 connector goes from the motor to the seat adjuster controls, which I guess is a separate harness. But if you have to buy these entire seat harnesses just for the 2 connectors... quite pricey. If you can't get to a junkyard or have another way of getting the connectors here's 2 options that you can use:


    1) Cut the seat harness, and crimp an intermediate connector to the wires such that you get a pigtail you can use for your new seat, but if you want to reinstall the stock seat you can have the mating connector on that and just plug in, rather than having to re-solder.


    2) The power connector really just houses 2 male spade connectors in a fancy plastic housing, that then gets clipped into that giant yellow connector housing for the seat. You can probably get away with just crimping 2 male spade connectors, just need to find a way to prevent them from pulling out of the mating female side on the car harness. I guess you could either do more digging to source the motor connector, or just solder to the 2 wires.


    ItsRichieRich

    07-26-2021, 09:54 PM

    So I found this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-SEAT-WIRE-WIRING-HARNESS-LEFT-DRIVER-MEMORY-BMW-E46-323-325-328-330-99-03-/393245143883?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

    It looks like it has that 4 pin connector, but it shows ‘99-‘p3. I wonder if that will work? Guessing game at this point…

    Do you have a picture of the OEM wiring so I can see what it looks like? That way I know what to cut too.
    I’ll see if there’s a local salvage yard with some seats. I prefer not to cut my setup as I want to switch back if need be.


    So I found this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-SEAT-WIRE-WIRING-HARNESS-LEFT-DRIVER-MEMORY-BMW-E46-323-325-328-330-99-03-/393245143883?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

    It looks like it has that 4 pin connector, but it shows ‘99-‘p3. I wonder if that will work? Guessing game at this point…

    Do you have a picture of the OEM wiring so I can see what it looks like? That way I know what to cut too.
    I’ll see if there’s a local salvage yard with some seats. I prefer not to cut my setup as I want to switch back if need be.Yo, that might work! Looks to have both the 4-flat motor connector and the main power connector. You can probably ask the seller for more pics just to be sure.

    Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the OE harness. The motor connector pigtail came with my mount setup (which I bought used) and member @Archbid was such a gentlemen to supply me with the main power connector pigtail.

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    ItsRichieRich

    07-27-2021, 02:12 PM

    Thanks again Tim! Got everything ordered up but the belt harness.

    Looking forward to installing these seats!


    Thanks again Tim! Got everything ordered up but the belt harness.

    Looking forward to installing these seats!

    Cool no problem, keep me posted how it goes!


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