Haibike review 2020

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Review: Haibike Sduro Trekking 4.0 brings durable and reliable components to a solid all-arounder

Haibike, a worldwide locally sold electric bike brand, carves a place in the middle of the road with the flexible Sduro Trekking 4.0.

In the past, Haibike carried about 50 different models in a variety of sizes, component level, tire size, and frame option. Lately, they’ve reduced their USA offering to less than 20 models, and I think it’s a change for the better. One of the models that made the cut is the quite flexible model called the Sduro Trekking 4.0.

Their naming conventions aren’t the most intuitive; “Sduro” is their line of less high-end models, “Trekking” for mostly road use, and “4.0” which denotes the mechanical component level. Therefore, the name of this bike may as well be “mid-range, mostly road bike with really good, (but not stellar) mechanical parts.”

Although Haibike only offers electric bikes in the USA, their branding, naming, and marketing is certainly geared towards the non-electric enthusiasts. The naming convention says nothing about the electric components of the bike.

But rest assured, we will get into that in the review!

Haibike Sduro Trekking 4.0 Tech Specs

  • Motor: Yamaha PW-ST mid-drive; “nominally” 250W
  • Battery: 36V 13.8Ah, integrated into frame
  • Range: 25-50 miles (40-80km)
  • Motor Engagement: 4 sensor pedal assist, no throttle
  • Gearing: 1×10 Speed Shimano Deore 11-42 Tooth
  • Frame: Aluminum
  • Tires: 27.5 x 2.4 Schwalbe Super Moto-X
  • Price: $3,200 MSRP
  • Extras: Fenders, rear rack with rear light, front air-shock, 180mm hydraulic Shimano disc brakes, 5000-lumen integrated front light with a magnet cap for … something?

As a Commuter

The bike is equipped with a nice set of accessories to get the job done. The rack is nice and strong – it is quite useful for carrying work items or even for some errands. The fenders are nice and wide, providing great protection from road debris, and the integrated lights are pretty cool. I don’t know why, but the front light has a cap on it with a magnet to secure it. I never did find out what it’s supposed to do.

Haibike uses super-moto-x tires which are some really nice tires for road use. These are some of my favorite tires, being very comfortable, reflective, and also flat resistant. Those big tires also leave room for mountain bike tires, if you wanted to take this bad boy off-road, which you totally could.

As a Mountain Bike

Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to take the bike off-road in person. I have ridden similar bikes using this motor, and have done many trips to the Utah mountains on Haibikes, so prior experience and road use will have to converge for this speculative assessment.

This bike features the Yamaha PW-ST motor, which is the next evolution in the beloved Yamaha PW lineup. The motor is a bit bulky, compared to the likes of the new Shimano or Bosch, but one great thing is the 4 sensors they use to offer what they call an automatic mode. In the ‘high’ setting on the display, this will go into a mode that will tailor the assistance based on wheel speed, pedaling speed, torque on the chain, and also tilt of the bike itself. On the road, I would call this effect subtle, but when you take it off-road, that’s where you can fully notice its effect. Given the motor capabilities, the spacing for knobby tread, and the wide handlebars, you definitely could use this bike both on and off the road.

 

Some Subtleties

The wide tires provide a bit of comfort, and the high handlebars do too. The grips have an ergonomic trim to them, and here I’m using the step-through frame, which is really easy to get on and off of. I would say these are “comfort-esque” features. One thing that I never did get the hang of was the battery case. I like the look of it, sure, but getting the battery in and out can be tough. If you don’t do it just right, there’s a lot of resistance. I’m sure with practice, I could learn the nuances.

In-Store Price

One thing I should mention is that this is a brand name bike, with brand name price and support. Haibikes are locally represented bikes, found in cities large and small. They carry brand name parts with surprising durability, and reliability to boot. Haibike sets the MSRP for this bike at $3,200, which isn’t the most competitive price out there. But if you’re willing to risk the wrong size or slightly different components, you can sometimes get a good deal on last year’s bikes, since that’s how Haibike rolls. After the rush of electric bike purchases due to the pandemic, you may not see the 2020 lineup in stores next year.

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A sporty looking, hardtail Best electric mountain bike candidate built for distance and everyday use? That is what the Haibike Sduro Trekking has been built to deliver. Despite being fairly new to electric bikes, I simply had to call one in and put it through its paces for this review. As such, what follows is as much a review of electric bikes in general as it is the Haibike Sduro (also sometimes styled SDuro, sDuro or SDURO) specifically.

The Sduro Trekking is available to buy now from Haibike, and is available in a range of models and sizes. Prices start from £2,249.

Before we get stuck in to the Haibike sDuro Trekking review proper, though, for those who are unfamiliar with the brand and the sorts of bikes it produces, it's worth checking out this short official video:

Haibike Sduro Trekking review: design and build quality

The first thing I noticed I when going hands on with the Haibike Sduro Trekking was just how substantial a unit it is. There is a very solid, future-industrial air about the machine, which radiates from its robust frame to its Yamaha PW Motor Unit and on to substantial front suspension and pannier rack, the latter a definite boon for me as I tend to transport quite a lot of tech with me most days.

The battery itself is also substantial. A 400wh Lithium Ion battery that resembles one of those handheld cordless vacuums and affixes to the central frame directly above the bike's motor unit and pedals.

The action to get the battery into and out of its holster on the Sduro Trekking threw me at first, as it has to first be unlocked by key (sensible; easy to achieve) but then before it can be lifted out of its contact point it needs to be slid to the side slightly, which at first I achieved at the expense of grazing my knuckles quite painfully on the top of the battery holster. I did get more accomplished at removing and inserting the battery, mind, and it comes with a useful carrying handle for transportation into your home or office for charging, which takes but a few hours for a full charge.

Rounding off the modern look is the bike's clip-on LCD screen, which slides in and out of a bracket mounted on the handle bars, and front mounted, battery connected AXA lights. I also dug the SKS Chromoplastic Mudguards and shock-resistant Skidplate, which protects the bottom side of the electric motor from impacts from gravel and stones, which on Bath's cycle routes and towpaths was definitely appreciated.

Overall, I came away from the Sduro Trekking with the opinion that it looks like a hybrid, which as a bike that is pitched as a tourer that you can use everyday, as well as one that you can use both on and off-road thanks to its sturdy mountain bike-like build and fat tyres, it very much is. The styling was spot on in my mind, too, and I am definitely a sucker for the diagonally-aligned, cross battery and frame "Haibike" logo positioning.

Haibike Sduro Trekking review: performance and features

That Yamaha PW Motor Unit nestles between the Sduro's pedals and is impressively compact. It delivers assistance in a variety of power levels, from Eco, through Eco+, Standard, and onto High. 

That equates to a flat-friendly 50 per cent on the lowest setting, right up to a hill-crushing 280 per cent assistance at the top. This was my personal favourite, I must say.

The mode is selected via the LCD screen, which also displays key information such as battery life (the 400wh Lithium Ion battery is rated to deliver up to 80 miles of assisted juice), speed, assistance level, and distance travelled. Once the mode is selected, the Sduro supplies pedalling assistance based on the gear selected, pedal rotation speed, and overall speed.

As with all electric bikes, there's a speed limit to this assisted pedalling, with the motor granting nothing over an EU-mandated 25kph – which is about 15.5mph. 

Depending on how quick you usually ride a bike this will either be a frustration or a moot point. If you regularly get up to 20mph, the way that the motor cuts out at about 15.5 means it feels like the bike is 'fighting back' if you try to go faster – that's down to the sheer weight of the thing. 

If, however, your favoured speed of progression is no more than 15.5mph then you're golden. 

Because of the way the bike decides when and how much to assist you, I also found myself trying to 'game' the bike to minimise my own input, especially on hills. If I tried to gun it too much, the bike's computer would make the decision for me that I didn't require assistance and all of a sudden I'd be trying to propel a very heavy bike with my legs alone. 

However, by maintaining a lower level of pedal rotation, in a specific set of gears, the motor would never drop off. Getting and keeping that sweet spot turned into a fun game at times. That's not really a negative point, just an illustration of how different ebikes such as this are to unpowered cycles. 

You have to surrender some control to the system, and accept its limits in terms of assistance speed. I'm guessing the vast majority of riders who pick one of these up will be using them as commuting and touring cruisers, anyway, and be quite content to remain at a slow to moderate speed.

Overall, I found the Sduro Trekking to be a very slick experience, and a very comfortable one, too, courtesy of the plush tyres and front suspension forks with 63mm of travel. This really helped minimise smooth the ride, especially when riding off-tarmac.

Indeed, the high levels of comfort, premium build quality and sturdiness, and slickness of the gear system really made journeys – especially longer ones – a pleasure. Motor assist took the pain out of the steepest hills so I could sit back, admire the scenery, and cruise by sweating MAMILS with minimal effort. That's definitely an experience I could get used to.

Battery life also impressed, with a single charge of the Sduro's hulking power pack giving me about five days worth of commuting action, which involved a 15-20 minute ride in and out of work each day, on a route that takes in a fairly substantial hill. The Sduro Trekking's battery also only required a couple of hours in its charger to hit 100 per cent again.

Haibike Sduro Trekking review: verdict

For me, as a casual cycle rider, using an unpowered bicycle to get to work is basically written off, as while I can freewheel down into town in the mornings, I simply don't want to have to power up the long, steep hill back in the evening – it takes ages, and I'm not in the mood after a day at work.

With the Haibike Sduro Trekking this problem was eradicated, with a quick shift of the bike into High assistance mode allowing me to crunch the hill climb and arrive back at my house having experienced a workout, but not painfully broken and cursing profusely.

I was also impressed with how well it handled itself when taken off road, with its industrial frame and chunky tires allowing me to take on Bath's gravel-filled canal towpaths, as well as various dirt tracks and open fields.

You can't say the Haibike sDuro Trekking is light and sporty, but it certainly is versatile and grants you the confidence to go pretty much anywhere.

As noted, what I didn't like was the noticeable, sharp drop off of the electric motor when hitting the law-mandated speed limit for these bikes. This makes it really quite difficult to push on to 20mph and beyond, unless you're flying down hill or have the thigh muscles of Dolph Lundgren. 

On the bike sent in for review there were also a few incidences of chain slippage between gears every now and then, with the missed-beat, slide-clunk particularly annoying when travelling up hill. This is easy enough to fix but annoying and also surprising considering the typically German attention to build quality evidenced everywhere else on the bike.

Overall, there's no doubting the quality of the Haibike Sduro Trekking. If you live in a city with few hills, it's totally over-specced. But for commutes that take in more rural, hilly areas, or for going off road and onto woodland trails and the like, it's great. 

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Except for the name, the new Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 has nothing in common with its predecessor. In an attempt to find the optimal position for the motor and battery, Haibike have designed a completely new frame around Bosch’s latest offering. With the optional dual battery system, it should appeal to those looking for maximum range. But can it deliver on the trail?

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The Haibike XDURO AllMtn is available with a choice of three different motors – Yamaha, Bosch and TQ Flyon. Whereas Haibike used to differentiate their model range based on the motor, they now differentiate based on the bike’s intended use. This makes Haibike one of the few brands to spec different motors in the same range. The Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 we tested and the XDURO AllMtn 3.5 are both new for 2020. To accommodate the latest Bosch motor, Haibike’s XDURO AllMtn boasts an all-new aluminium frame with a few tricks up its sleeve. The most striking feature is the tilt of the motor and the amount of room in the front triangle. By tilting the motor, Haibike were able to place the 625 Wh battery as low as possible in the down tube while also making room for an additional battery. Haibike have stayed true to their look with the unmistakable hump in the top tube, while established features like the modular rail system and Haibike’s in-house components remain.

We initially ordered the € 5,499 Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.5 for this test since it was still within our budget. Unfortunately, Haibike only had the € 500 less expensive XDURO AllMtn 3.0 available at the time. That said, take a closer look at the spec list, and you’ll find the AllMtn 3.0 isn’t a bad choice either. Instead of the RockShox Pike, you get a Yari RC fork. This is complemented by a RockShox Deluxe Select Plus shock, which is the same as on the XDURO AllMtn 3.5, providing 160 mm travel. Transferring the power of the Bosch Performance CX motor to the 27.5” rear wheel is a SRAM SX Eagle drivetrain. Compared to the competition, the shifting is slower and less precise than with an NX Eagle or Shimano SLX drivetrain. The 27.5″x2.8” MAXXIS Minion DHRII tire on the rear and 29”x2.5” DHF up front aren’t robust enough for our liking due to the EXO casing. Keeping the 25.6 kg of the Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 in check are a pair of MAGURA MT5 brakes with 200 mm rotors.

Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0

€ 4,999

Specifications

Motor Bosch Performance Line CX 75 Nm
Battery Bosch PowerTube 625 Wh
Display Bosch Purion
Fork RockShox Yari RC 160 mm
Rear Shock RockSchox Deluxe Select+ 160 mm
Seatpost Haibike Components Dropper-Post 140 mm
Brakes Magura MT5 200/200 mm
Drivetrain SRAM SX Eagle 1x12
Stem Haibike Components TheStem 2 50 mm
Handlebar Haibike Components The Bar ++ 780 mm
Wheelset Rodi Tryp35/Haibike Components The Hub 29"/27.5"
Tires MAXXIS Minion DHF/DHRII EXO 2.6"/2.8"

Geometry of the Haibike XDURO AllMtn

The geometry of Haibike’s new XDURO AllMtn platform is progressive and though the 448 mm reach (size L) is rather compact, the 65° head angle is one of the slackest on test. The bike’s 75° seat tube angle may seem slack on paper, but without a kink in the seat tube, this angle remains consistent throughout the range of the dropper’s travel. As a result, the riding position on the XDURO AllMtn 3.0 is up to date and central. However, for very long rides on level terrain, this puts some weight on your hands. If this is where you spend a lot of your time, it’s worth pushing the saddle back slightly and adding spacers under the stem.

Despite the new motor and completely redesigned frame, the new XDURO AllMtn 3.0 unmistakably remains a Haibike.

SizeSMLXL
Seat tube410 mm440 mm470 mm500 mm
Top tube567 mm588 mm620 mm654 mm
Head tube115 mm120 mm130 mm145 mm
head angle65.0°65.0°65.0°65.0°
Seat angle75.0°75.0°75.0°75.0°
Chainstays455 mm455 mm455 mm455 mm
BB Drop20 mm20 mm20 mm20 mm
Wheelbase1,194 mm1,216 mm1,250 mm1,287 mm
Reach410 mm430 mm460 mm490 mm
Stack639 mm643 mm652 mm666 mm

Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 on test

As soon as things point uphill, the steep effective seat tube angle of the Haibike reveals its strengths. No matter how steep the climbs, you’re positioned comfortably central on the bike. As a result, the front wheel stays planted on the trail despite the tall front end. Although the suspension isn’t quite as sensitive as on the Kenevo, the Haibike is able to get up climbs where almost all other bikes on test fail. The Haibike feels most comfortable simply rolling over obstacles, seeing as it’s a little too sluggish to permit quick direction changes and line choice corrections.

The Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 is a great all-rounder and excellent climber. However, it quickly reaches its limits at high speeds and when trying to make quick line corrections.

Going downhill, the Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 remains composed but feels more sluggish than agile. On flowing trails, it takes a lot of physical effort to pump the bike through rollers, to carve through berms or get it airborne. The rear suspension lacks the support necessary to do so. The fact that the Haibike is by far the heaviest bike on test (1.5 kg above the average) is noticeable on flowing trails and in steep sections. In open corners and on flatter trails, the handling is very balanced and easy to control despite the slack head angle and tall front. The even weight distribution allows less skilled riders to generate a lot of grip on both wheels.

Tuning tips: perfect as is for moderate trails | for long rides, slide the saddle backwards on its rails

Riding Characteristics

7

Agility

  1. sluggish
  2. playful

Stability

  1. nervous
  2. stable

Handling

  1. demanding
  2. balanced

Riding fun

  1. boring
  2. lively

Motor feeling

  1. digital
  2. natural

Motor power

  1. weak
  2. strong

Value for money

  1. poor
  2. top

Conclusion of the Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0

Thanks to the riding position and the optional range extender, the Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 will get you to the top of the highest and steepest peaks, making it an excellent choice for alpine adventurers. However, it lacks the agility and reserves required for an active riding style and high speed trails. On moderate trails, it’s a great all-rounder with handling that is balanced and stable.

Tops

  • pedalling position uphill
  • Modular Rail System
  • integrated speed-sensor

Flops

  • weight noticeable on the descents
  • shifting performance
  • puncture prone rear tire

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All bikes in review:CENTURION No Pogo E R2600i (Click for review) | CUBE Stereo Hybrid 140 HPC (Click for review) | Haibike XDURO AllMtn 3.0 | Moustache Samedi 29 Game 4 (Click for review) | RADON RENDER 10.0 (Click for review) | Scott Genius eRIDE 920 (Click for review) | Specialized Kenevo Comp (Click for review) | Trek Rail 7 EU (Click for review)


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Class 1 Electric Bike Review, Haibike SDURO Trekking 4.0 Review
People, as a newbie to the forum I thought I would give a little something first, as I am sure there will be much I will take from these great pages..

To give a little background, I have been using the Giant Trance platform for the last 15 or so years, and owned various different specs/models. I am a big fan of the Trance as you have probably guessed and particularly it’s rear linkage system which IMO works extremely well. They are also a great price for their spec and my last one (a 2019 X3) was indeed a great bike, the most surprising component of the lot being the Suntour AION 35 forks which left me stunned with their performance, having only used Rockshox and Fox previously. As a result, my first searches for an EMTB naturally led me to the Trance E+ range, however due to Covid supply issues I couldn’t find any anywhere, at least not in my usual Large frame size. So onwards I looked.

I had always been taken with how ‘aggressive’ Haibikes looked and I knew they had been doing EMTB’s for years. This wasn’t to be my first ebike, I had used an OxyDrive Bafang rear hub kit on one of my previous Trance’s which tbh I was impressed with and gave me many miles of riding pleasure until it got nicked. Obviously, it had severe limitations off road so I vowed that my next ebike would be crank drive. Although I was erring towards Haibike, I still looked at other manufacturers but again there wasn’t much available. I eventually found a 3.0 in an LBS quite local to me in Canvey Island, Essex (Les’ Cycles) but it was an XL. Now given my previous Large bikes (I am 6’ 1”), I would not even have looked at an XL had Les’ not been a 30min drive. Boy I’m glad I made the trip – Les’ were really good, pulling the bike from display and allowing me to ride up and down the street outside their shop. Straight away the bike felt very similar in size to my Trances. I was smitten! But the £4.5k price tag was more than I wanted to spend – I was looking around the £3.8k mark and had seen the 2019 AllMtn advertised for around this price so I had been aiming at that. And Les’ weren’t budging on the price – largely because the bulk of the cost would be funded by my C2W scheme (and for which Les’ lost a not insignificant 15%) but also because due to Covid it was clearly a sellers market. They would shift the bike at full retail no problem and I can understand their stance. So, knowing that the bike fitted and it was everything I wanted in all other respects (I also preferred the non-jockey wheel and bigger battery on the 2020 bikes) I bit the bullet. 2 weeks later I picked the bike up. I can’t rate Les’ highly enough, all staff were brilliant and even though they were steadfast on the price they did throw in a decent lock, water bottle, cage and some special cage mounts for the Haibike rail system. Definitely recommended as a good old-fashioned LBS.

The following will be my initial take on the 3.0, and for ease I have written my thoughts in sections rather than lump everything together.

FRAME: ‘Stout’ is the first word that comes to mind. It also looks heavy, I would love to know how much it actually weighs. As mentioned above it’s an XL and it feels perfect for me, the only thing I would change is a slightly lower seat tube so I could drop the post a little more but I would rather have this issue than go down a size and cramp the cockpit up. It’s a really ‘tidy’ looking setup, all the cables/hoses are as hidden as you can get them and some thought has gone into their placement. I can’t see there being any rubbing issues in the future. Overall construction looks good, my only gripe being that the void around the top of motor could have been put to better use (a small storage area?) or even just made the frame to ‘encase’ the motor neatly. It’s almost like they built the frame for another motor and at the last minute decided to fit the CX Gen 4. That said the paintwork is stunning and well finished.

FORKS: The RockShox 35 Yari’s didn’t impress me one bit at first and I was really disappointed. Massively harsh and small bump compliance seemed non-existent. They also had too much stiction for my liking. Way worse than my previous ‘lower spec’ Suntour AION’s. So of course I started off by dropping the pressure a little (to 25~30% sag for my 95kg), zeroed compression damping and backed off rebound to 4 clicks to give them the best chance possible of redeeming themselves. Better, but still not good enough, nor impressive. I noticed that there was no way I was going to use the current available travel (I am not a big hitter) so thought I would check for volume spacers – lo and behold there was two inside (I was supplied two with the bike so didn’t think there would be more than one fitted, if any) so both came out and this made a marked difference. After adjusting sag again I could now actually get the forks to move decently. There is still a little more stiction than I would like (I am a bit OCD with plushness) but this does seem to be improving with every ride. Maybe the seals just need bedding in. I may well change them out for SKF Greens just to see if it makes a difference. As it stands, I still wouldn’t say the Yaris perform any better than the AION’s, which I am surprised at given people don’t seem to have a lot of love for Suntours in general. Branding hype for RockShox maybe…?

REAR SUS: Very similar circumstances to the above, if not worse. I honestly thought the linkages were binding. I could barely get the shock to move, let alone use it’s full travel. Like the forks, it had higher pressure than I needed so once sag adjusted it was better but still very harsh. So off came the shock and I found that the lower bush wasn’t centered which I imagined wasn’t helping. I also thought I would again check for any tokens and once again I found not only two but three of the buggers inside. Out came the lot, refitted the shock, centered the bush, adjusted sag and finally it was working as I expected. How much the bush was affecting things I don’t know as I didn’t try it on it’s own but I’m just glad that things worked out. I can only assume that Haibike are expecting a 6’5” gorilla to be taking the bike down the blacks at Morzine to supply bikes setup stock like this. I totally accept that this is an XL frame and from Haibikes point of view it is probably safer to set up too firm than too soft but still. I haven’t put enough miles on the bike yet to decide whether the RockShox Deluxe Debonair is better/worse than the Fox RP types I have used previously but at the moment they do feel very similar which is fine by me.

BRAKES: One word - Amazing. And that's coming from XT's with 203's. Never used Maguras before and after bedding in these stop effortlessly with one finger. I haven’t taken this bike to Morzine yet (hopefully later this year) so can’t comment on how they handle heat but the power is there for sure. I can’t think of any improvements I would make at this point, the levers are nice too, which I think were changed on the 2020 model. No flex in them anywhere and have reach adjust.

DRIVETRAIN: Works very well. No issues with shifting or dropping chains. That said I have read numerous horror stories about the stock SX derailleur either breaking or failing in some way which I didn’t want happening in the middle of nowhere, let alone whilst on holiday with the bike. So 30 miles in, despite zero problems, I swopped out the mech and (for good measure) the trigger to Shimano SLX which I have used in the past and always been happy. I know the cassette is also a lowly SX but reports seem to be good as despite its weight this can actually be a bonus on an ebike as it’s all steel and therefore stronger. I can live with that. I may well however upgrade the chain when it wears. The 38t chainring seems about perfect for me, giving the ability to pedal up to about 20mph and still permits real low speed stuff on the 50t rear. A very nice spread.

MOTOR/BATTERY/DISPLAY: Very impressive. As iterated earlier though, I have not used a crank drive before. However, I am extremely pleased with how the CX Gen4 delivers, and all modes are good in their respective uses. I do quite a lot of road riding (I know, why need 160mm travel – it’s because I can only have one bike for everything) and the ECO and TOUR modes work really well for this. EMTB mode is where it really shines off road though, very smooth, no spikes, it really feels just like an extension of your own legs ability. I tested a few extreme hills yesterday and it went up them like a mountain goat. I honestly can’t see me wanting for more power although I may dongle it to get an assisted 20mph. The battery lasts well for a 625Wh, I can get 60 miles no problem on ECO although obviously this will drop significantly with off-road/hills use. It certainly seems enough for my use case. The battery retention system works well and no rattles/movement anywhere. The rubberized edge on the battery cover seals well against the frame to prevent water ingress although I did adjust the locking mechanism to achieve this, it was a little looser as supplied. Can be charged off the bike too, handy for me as I never leave it on the bike overnight (something less to go missing should the bike get nicked). The stock 4A charger is more than quick enough for me, being used to my previous ebike charger, most of which are generally 2A. The Purion display works well and I don’t think I would want anything bigger. It has all the info I need, the only thing I would change is the addition of a clock. Sounds daft I know, but I like being able to know the time without pulling my phone out and I don’t wear a watch. Easy to switch modes/reset trip too. Nothing in general I would want to change with the whole system though tbh.

WHEELS/HUBS/TYRES: All good here too. Straight as a die, run smooth and the 35mm rear with the 2.8 Maxxis Minion DHR2 sticks like the proverbial. The front isn’t a problem either with the 2.5 variant on a 30mm rim. The mullet does take a little getting used to but it certainly inspires confidence on the downs and I can’t notice any flexing anywhere.

FINISHING KIT: All pretty good to be frank. The 780mm bars are perfect for me, the short stem no problem, the dropper post works well although to raise it I do need to apply some weight onto it first before it will pop up. I don’t know if this is by design or whether it’s simply sticking. It’s not a big deal for me though. Pedals were pretty crap although I was surprised it came with any at all tbh. They were swopped out straight away for my usual DMR V12’s. I also swopped out the grips – the stock one weren’t bad per se but I just prefer the larger diameter RaceFace ones, and I could get them in blue (natch). The seat was the only thing I didn’t have a choice with – it had to come off. What Haibike were thinking with it I have no idea. I get that we are all built differently but to make a seat where the centre section is actually raised is bonkers for male riders. On went a new Ergon and it’s been great.

MODS: Aside from the previously mentioned SLX mech/shifter/grips and pedals, I also fitted a RockShox fender which, being designed by them, fits the forks really well. Oh and I had to get a black/blue one of course which matches the paint pretty closely. I also fitted some blue (of course) plastic inserts to the calipers, swopping out the stock silver ones. The aftermarket ones (from the Bay) are bigger and more noticeable. The colour isn’t a great match but it works. I also went with a blue (see the theme here..?) decal kit for the forks. I honestly can’t think of much more I want to do/change on this bike apart from maybe a dongle. I wouldn’t mind going to the 220mm disc for the front, if only to look better with the 29” rim.

SUMMARY: I can genuinely recommend this bike. It’s a great all-rounder for sure, but be prepared to lose some of the bloody tokens if you aren’t built like Arnie. Set it up to what suits you and I am confident you will get a lot of fun from this bike for many miles. Also bear in mind that IMO these frames run small. Don’t discount going up one size from your usual. No the bike isn’t cheap but are any decent ebikes? The only other thing I will mention is that if you can stretch to an extra £800~£1000 I would deffo go for the full carbon framed AllMtn 6.0 which also gets you Fox 38’s and an upgrade in some drivetrain components. I just couldn’t justify it myself, but for the difference in cost it would be a no brainer if I could. You do lose 25Wh of battery with the Yamaha setup but that’s not a deal breaker.

So there we are, I hope it helps give someone food for thought if you are contemplating the Haibike range, or the 3.0 in particular. I will update further as and when I have something else to say ?

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Sours: https://www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/haibike-allmtn-3-0-2020-initial-review.20087/

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